Ep. 326 What We Learned: The Final Episode

Well, there’s not much more to type here than we have said on the last, and now this, show. This isn’t sayonara from your pals, Jeff and Dan, but rather a marker in their lives as they move onto new projects. On this show we play a sampling of calls form you, the listeners, as we learned what you learned and we talk about our plans for the future. Dan and Jeff can still be found @dan_vanvoorhis and danvanvoorhis.com (as well as 1517.org) and Jeff will be at @taosurfers. Peace!

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Ep 325 The Second to Last Episode

So, if the title of the show doesn't give it away.... surprise! After 300+ weeks, 3 continents, dozens of states and hours of conversation, we are hanging up the microphones and turning the lights out on the ViW project.  But, not without a bang.

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Ep 323 Dutch Radicals, The Reformation, and Wackysoup

I used to think it was really cool when people broke the 4th wall.  You know, like, in Fight Club or the original Pink Panther when something happened to remind you that you were indeed watching a film reel.

There is nothing as clever here, but a little twist which might make you take notice.  Usually we banter for a few minutes, talk around the subject, and then dig in. 

Well, it seems to be only once every twenty years the Rams make the Super Bowl, so we spent some time talking about them, the game and a myriad of other things. 

 

But to get to those hot takes, you need to wade through the actual subject matter. I've moved that 30 minute conversation to the back of our first conversation about dutch radicals, the reformation and the enlightenment. 

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Episode 322 The States of the Union: An Experiment in Federalism

Sometimes our shows start with really simple ideas.  For instance, one of us might think of something that would be relevant to the podcast and send the article, idea, etc… via text.  We do a little reading, figure out what the “bigger story” at play is, and… voila.  An hour and a half later, plus editing time (we sometimes do that!) and we’ve got another show.

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Ep 320 The Biggest and Best of 2018

Happy New Year! On today’s show we talk about the biggest and best of 2018 and what we might look forward to in 2019.  It’s an episode with the two guys doing what they love most, chatting with each other about challenges in culture and the church.  We decided to look at the “biggest” and “best” stories of 2018, with Jeff taking the “biggest” stories and Dan covering a few of the “best”.  We take on a few controversial topics, talk about being gracious in disagreement and singleminded in our trust of the promise, and intentions to make this place just a little better for all of us (and yes, we recognize the pitfalls of overly optimistic and progressive thought that believes things can keep getting better and better until we usher in a millennium of peace… we don’t mean that…you know, we’re just talking about being a slightly nicer dude or lady that we might be able to be of service to all… it probably sounds more ambitious than you think… anyways…)

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Ep 319 Losing Our Religion: The "Lost" R.E.M. Show

Little known fact: the original name of Virtue in the Wasteland was “Jeff and Dan’s Vanity Project to Explore Their Hobbies” but we decided to go a little more broad and talk about society and religion and stuff…

Maybe that’s not exactly how it played out, but there is a funny bit of guilt we feel whenever we dive head first into a topic that is seemingly just tickling our fancy as mass entertainment and thus unworthy of critical reflection. But on this show we will argue that R.E.M. is not just one of our favorite bands, but the most important American band of all time. Sound hyperbolic? Check out the show and see if we can pull off the argument and join in on virtueinthewasteland.com

We recorded this show from the RV somewhere between Athens, GA and Charlottesville, VA after our pilgrimage to the mecca of R.E.M. fan sites. We got to discussing the band, its evolution and role in 80’s and 90’s pop culture. On this show, which was recorded moths ago and feared lost until only a few days ago, we make the audacious argument that R.E.M. is the most significant rock band in U.S. history.

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Ep 317 the 2018 Christmas Spectacular!

Christmas movies and carols and traditions and….. we could go on and on. And in fact, we have gone “on and on” for over 5 years now doing a special Christmas show- you can check them all out Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, Here, and Here (Ok, sometimes we did more than 1 Christmas show). On today’s show the guys are back together again in the comfy confines of the ViW Irvine studios and it felt like old times. The thesis of today’s show is that the strange “thrill of hope” we all experience this time of year is no coincidence.

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Ep. 316 The Theology of the Cross and EGBOK- Live from HWSS2018

I don’t have any naked baby photos. Frankly, I don’t have any baby photos. I blame either a house fire or parental indifference. Nonetheless, I wonder if I might not start subtitling my talks as “naked baby photos” not because there are, but because when I overshare, that’s the closest thing I can relate to how I’ll probably make you feel when I share publicly about my life.

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Ep 315 Bears and Butterflies- Jeff Mallinson Live at HWSS18

Hey friends, Dan here… thanks for reading. You see that picture up above? The one with the quote? Yeah, so it’s a quote from this talk and when our pals in digital media made the meme it drove some of facebook up the wall. Now, I thought it was all pretty funny in a kind of sad way- never will you see less joy or grace than with some Lutheran types! In some ways, this talk was meant to frustrate, that is, if you see Jesus wrapped up in religion, rules and power.

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Ep 314 Seculosity with Dave Zahl

This is the kind of interview that could have been 4 hours and ranged from everything from ethics to REM to “virtue signaling” and Bob Dylan. Dave is the founder of Mockingbird Ministries which does some of the kind of stuff we like to do here at Virtue in the Wasteland, in fact, we like to think of them as our more distinguished East Coast colleagues. And so, when we were planning our trip through the South we made sure we stopped by Charlottesville, VA to the headquarters of Mockingbird to meet up with our good pal, Dave Zahl.

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Ep 312 #ChurchToo with Emily Joy in Nashville

On this weeks episode we welcome back an old guest of the show: Emily Joy.  Since last being on our show, Emily Joy has contributed to Jeff's book Sexy as well as co-founded the #churchtoo movement and has become something of a lightning rod for issues of abuse in the church.  We interviewed Emily Joy while traveling through Nashville, and when she had told us she had "changed since we last me", we weren't sure what to expect.

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Ep 311 Live from Here We Still Stand 2018

On this weeks’ episode we take you back to the 2nd Annual Here We Still Stand conference in beautiful, if slightly milquetoast, San Diego (just kidding San Diego, we love you, as we have recorded at least once a year from your confines only to eventually praise your street food, socio-economic diversity and weather).

Think of it as part of the road trip, as we recorded this show almost immediately upon returning from our road trip.  Stay tuned in the next few weeks

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Episode 308 A Conversation with the Reverend Dr. Victor Singingeagle

Seriously, he is a reverend and a doctor (with 2 PhDs) and a generally cool guy we first ran across when we checked out the work on Selma from our pals the Klembara’s and Blake Flattely. The Rev. Dr was a professor at the only Historically Black College (HBC) in the Lutheran church, which was abruptly closed after nearly a century in existence. As we were traveling through the South and looking for conversations with people who might break the mold, we knew that Fr. Singingeagle would be ideal. As we found on the trip, rarely do people meet expectations or fit the standard binaries we are accustomed to, and this especially in religious circles where denominations and confessions rarely fit very tightly conscripted views.

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